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New PM 45 XP

Post by exapprentice » Thu Oct 06, 2016 12:24 pm

Hi Tom

I am sure I read somewhere that you were looking at the spec's for the new PM 45 XP?

Do you think that your software will need tweaking to be able to use the features using the RS 485 port + new features (marking etc)?

Do you know approx what the time scale might be?? if you do need to modify the software and screens?

Its really simple to ask, more difficult to answer ;)

Thanks Tom
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Re: New PM 45 XP

Post by admin13o5 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 5:32 pm

I do not see anything in the specs now that would keep the current system form working. We may need to change the min and max cut current but that is trivial. I have to get my programmer to look over the specs just to make sure. We might can have a better answer by tomorrow (Sat your time!)

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Re: New PM 45 XP

Post by exapprentice » Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:22 am

Tom your a star

That's really good news,
The new XP is not available over here until the 10/10/16 but I have put my name down for a demo on my site.
As soon as everything is buttoned down and the deal (?) is done then I will order the relevant connection kit (HyT Connect RS485 SIM Kit B without Hub) and (Feather Touch Ohmic Sensor) set up to go with the new XP, I hope

Any chance you will be able to confirm that all is good for use on the new 45 XP I assume ( :shock: ) that the basics will be as per the PM 65, 85 & 105 but the additional features now on the 45 XP (Marking) will be usable ;)
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Re: New PM 45 XP

Post by admin13o5 » Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:35 am

Plasma marking on the XP takes a different set of consumables so it won't be just a different tool in SheetCAM. You will have to stop and change consumables. The RS485 should make it so the cut current for marking is turned down. We have had soft pierce and center soft marking with plasma with the RS485 for a while and we have supported an external pneumatic plate marker attachment for years on any of our controllers.

I think the strength of the XP is its wider range of cut thickness and the addition of fine cut using the really nice duramax torch . I am getting ready to run a special to give a 100 rebate on the purchase of our HyT-connect RS485 SIM kit for any buyer of a new 45Xp with the RS485 option OR for any proof of purchase for the Hypertherm RS485 upgrade kit .

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Re: New PM 45 XP

Post by kylethorpe89 » Sat Oct 08, 2016 9:45 pm

Does this new plasma marking option you think work with a powermax 85? Maybe simple update firmware on the plasma itself? Or have to wait for 85xp to come out?
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Re: New PM 45 XP

Post by sphurley » Sun Oct 09, 2016 10:50 am

You do it now on the 65, 85 and 105 using the RS485 option/Hy-T kit. You and change the amps in the fly with the RS485 control, so you lower the amps and just short fire (peck) the spot. This is provided you are using Sheetcam with the custom post processor.
And you do without changing consumables. The 45XP will now drop down lower in amps than the other three (10 vs 20) so if thin sheetmetal is what you are doing then the 45xp is a better option maybe.
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Re: New PM 45 XP

Post by admin13o5 » Sun Oct 09, 2016 3:32 pm

I think the lowest amps on the 85 is 45 (I think) . That is factory setting and sending it less than that with the RS485 has no effect. It depends on what you want to do. It won't arc engrave stuff but it will soft pierce and plasma soft peck hole centers. I have used it down to 14ga.

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Re: New PM 45 XP

Post by Scott V » Mon Oct 17, 2016 1:34 pm

The 85 has a low-end of 25 amps, 65 is 20 amps, and the 45XP is 10 amps.. I don't think 10 amp cutting power does anything for most people.. Not with the nozzles out now, standard 45 amp, and fine cut 45 amps. is the lowest there are,, Sure you can run them down low, but 10 amps they will be totally useless for cutting anything. I would run my Esab 160 (15-90 amp machine) down to 20 amps, and never any lower for cutting.. 15 amps for marking divots.. They had real 20/30 amp nozzles for cutting too..

Hypertherm is going to release lower amp nozzles for the duramax stuff soon. but that does not mean they are really going to have any value for cutting at ten amps.. Probably 20 amps though...

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Re: New PM 45 XP

Post by admin13o5 » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:06 pm

I don't think there was an expectation of cutting at 10A. Its a marking current. it will come in handy for peck marking thin material. Never tied to cut 26 ga but at 20A and fine cut you should get good results. I don't know how well it will mark with the standard consumables but they suggest using the new specail marking tips and using Argon. We are looking at using one of the AUX outputs to swtich the gas but I con't figure out how to make it swap out consumables :?

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Re: New PM 45 XP

Post by Scott V » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:51 pm

This was posted, and why I wrote what I did..I was thinking he meant cutting at the bottom amps.. The low-end of 45 XP will be for marking, and special gouging operations.. The new Low amp consumables for the powermax machines will add some useful options on cutting thinner metal.. (for all of them.. ) They are being tested now..

The 45XP will now drop down lower in amps than the other three (10 vs 20) so if thin sheetmetal is what you are doing then the 45xp is a better option maybe.

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